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Pandemonium hat geschrieben:Aber was büted MS für exklusiv Games? Klar Forza oder ebe Titanfall. Aber die Ziite wo ich wäg eim Game ä Konsole kauft han sind zum Glück verbi.

BrainBug hat geschrieben:drive club wird im übrige kein sim racer. eher sowas in der Liga von PGR (hoffelich nüd so scheissig)

Pandemonium hat geschrieben:

Skeletor hat geschrieben:meine fresse, bisch du würkli so bescheuert?

hani au grad denkt.

General Schaden hat geschrieben:

BrainBug hat geschrieben:drive club wird im übrige kein sim racer. eher sowas in der Liga von PGR (hoffelich nüd so scheissig)

PGR = best wo je hetz sits!

Erst bei einer kleinen Mehrspieler-Session bekam man einen Eindruck vom eigentlichen Spiel – und die Begeisterung hält sich in Grenzen. Warum? Weil die überarbeitete Grafikengine derzeit noch weit davon entfernt ist, das Renngeschehen mit konstanten 60 Bildern pro Sekunde zu inszenieren und auch die Motorenklänge immer noch stark zu wünschen übrig lassen. Auf mich wirkt es so, als würde Sony Gran Turismo 5 durch den Recycling-Wolf drehen und mit leicht erweiterten Inhalten einfach neu veröffentlichen. Zumindest erschließt sich mir bis heute nicht, was den sechsten Teil so viel besser macht als seinen Vorgänger. Auf der Messe wäre die Chance da gewesen, es mir und allen anderen zu zeigen. Sie wurde vertan.

General Schaden hat geschrieben:Oha, der GT6-Eindruck klingt ja nicht gerade begeistert

General Schaden hat geschrieben:

Pandemonium hat geschrieben:

Skeletor hat geschrieben:meine fresse, bisch du würkli so bescheuert?

hani au grad denkt.

vielleicht glaubt er ja selbst dran.

Bejita hat geschrieben:

General Schaden hat geschrieben:

Pandemonium hat geschrieben:

Skeletor hat geschrieben:meine fresse, bisch du würkli so bescheuert?

hani au grad denkt.

vielleicht glaubt er ja selbst dran.

über 10 millione verchoufte GT5, und knapp 4 Millione Furzas, zum glück cha ig mi zu dä 10 millione kluge zeue, und nid zu dä futzdumme forza idiote
Z lustige isch, die Forza Punks si eh nume ehemals und frustrierti GT Fans.

Pandemonium hat geschrieben:Aber was büted MS für exklusiv Games? Klar Forza oder ebe Titanfall. Aber die Ziite wo ich wäg eim Game ä Konsole kauft han sind zum Glück verbi.

Koop Kooper hat geschrieben:

Pandemonium hat geschrieben:Aber was büted MS für exklusiv Games? Klar Forza oder ebe Titanfall. Aber die Ziite wo ich wäg eim Game ä Konsole kauft han sind zum Glück verbi.

es gow chunt sicher au use. halo natürlich au
xboxone isch jo codefree,auso shoot em ups usw.

dir verpasset öpis!

Bejita hat geschrieben: über 10 millione verchoufte GT5, und knapp 4 Millione Furzas, zum glück cha ig mi zu dä 10 millione kluge zeue, und nid zu dä futzdumme forza idiote
Z lustige isch, die Forza Punks si eh nume ehemals und frustrierti GT Fans.

resuscitation hat geschrieben:

Bejita hat geschrieben:

General Schaden hat geschrieben:

Pandemonium hat geschrieben:

Skeletor hat geschrieben:meine fresse, bisch du würkli so bescheuert?

hani au grad denkt.

vielleicht glaubt er ja selbst dran.

über 10 millione verchoufte GT5, und knapp 4 Millione Furzas, zum glück cha ig mi zu dä 10 millione kluge zeue, und nid zu dä futzdumme forza idiote
Z lustige isch, die Forza Punks si eh nume ehemals und frustrierti GT Fans.

Ich han beides gspielt.. also bin ich än kluge Punk

Uriel hat geschrieben:

General Schaden hat geschrieben:Oha, der GT6-Eindruck klingt ja nicht gerade begeistert

Dummerweise wenig überraschend. Irgendwie lebt die GT Crew in einem Vakuum, genau gleich wie die Final Fantasy Entwickler etc. Ich glaub mittlerweile wirklich, dass die Typen keine Sekunde Forza oder iRacing (und die ganzen anderen PC-Sims) gespielt haben und tatsächlich glauben, so n paar hochdetaillierte Karossen machen die klaren Defizite des Spiels wett.

General Schaden hat geschrieben:

Pandemonium hat geschrieben:Aber was büted MS für exklusiv Games? Klar Forza oder ebe Titanfall. Aber die Ziite wo ich wäg eim Game ä Konsole kauft han sind zum Glück verbi.

Forzer, Forzer Horeisen 2 kommt bestimmt auch irgendwann, Halo, Titanfall, Crimson Dragon und und und...

Bejita hat geschrieben: Das isch ja ou klar gsi, es isch ou soudumm vo Sony es GT 5.5 aus GT 6 z bringe

whoopwhoop hat geschrieben:

General Schaden hat geschrieben:

Pandemonium hat geschrieben:Aber was büted MS für exklusiv Games? Klar Forza oder ebe Titanfall. Aber die Ziite wo ich wäg eim Game ä Konsole kauft han sind zum Glück verbi.

Forzer, Forzer Horeisen 2 kommt bestimmt auch irgendwann, Halo, Titanfall, Crimson Dragon und und und...

Halo isch toter wie tot.

RIP in peace.

Bejita hat geschrieben:I ha jä säuber gseit das Forza so zimlech aues besser macht aus GT5, und doch blibts e Klon, und wird nie, ou nume anähernd so erfolgrich si wie s GT

whoopwhoop hat geschrieben:RIP in peace.

Halo 4 is worse than Reach. By a lot. Geez I don't even know where to start.

If Reach got rid of every man starting fair, 4 pissed on its grave. You know start with a unique loadout that you select, out of a primary, secondary, and some COD-esque perks. None of this is communicated to the enemy. They have no idea if you have more powerful grenades, if you have a better radar, if you have less flinch. Oh fuck that's right there's flinch now. When you got shot in the old games while zoomed in, you would get zoomed out. You're punished for being shot, but you can still continue the fight fairly. In 4, if you get shot, your aim just recoils. Quite a bit sometimes. Enough that in long range DMR battles, if you get shot first, your odds of fighting back are real, real low. Anyways, you have no idea of knowing who has what anymore.
On top of that, Halo 4 killed my other favorite part of Halo, map control. No longer do weapons spawn on timers in known areas of the map, promoting movement and teamwork. Nope. Aside from some initial guaranteed weapons spawns at the very start, weapons spawn at random, in random spots. Pure luck which team gets them. For instance, I played a game of slayer where a teammate had a sniper. A sniper then spawned right next to me at random. The game WAS tied 20-20, and we went on to win 60-38. Wonder if those two snipers had anything to do with it?
Even worse, in slayer, you now get "ordnance drops" that unlock after x amount of kills or points or whatever the fuck it is. These ordnance drops have random weapons/powerups in them that you can select. This is how weapons are spawned in slayer. Keep in mind, its random. sometimes you'll get a rocket, and sometimes you'll get plasma grenades. Now that's fair.

Furthermore, in most gametypes, there is instant respawn. seriously, you die, and respawn instantly. There is no reward for killing an enemy; you don't get their power weapons (those disappear almost instantly in this game, 12 seconds if I remember correct), and they don't STAY dead in most gametypes (I think CTF has like a 3 second respawn). There's no punishment for dying. You don't even lose map position because... there's no reason to control a map. In my experience, most CTF games (especially on fucking Adrift) devolve into "score and camp".

On top of this, 343 saw fit to add super cheap versions of every exisiting power weapon. They added a 1sk sniper (hit them at all and they die), a higher dps AR (kills in about 1-2s, not sure, but its real fast), a more powerful rocket launcher (incineration cannon), and I think there's another gun I'm forgetting. These aren't fun to go up against; they kill you before you have a chance to fight back. It's also worth noting that in general, you have less health in this game than the previous games. Kill times are probably 3-4s, whereas they used to be 4s+ for standard weapons. Combine this with flinch (where you don't really have a good chance to fight back at range), and maybe you're starting to understand my hatred of this game.

There's also the boltshot. A pistol that charges up as a shotgun at close range, that kills in one shot if you are halfway decent with it. It charges up very quickly, and you can spawn with it. you can essentially spawn with a shotgun. I can't remember the last time I had a melee battle in this game; there's no reason to melee when there's the boltshot.
Grenades are also insanely weak in this game, although this wouldn't be nearly as bad if it wasn't for all the other crap.
So after eviscerating any form of competitive gameplay, 343 saw fit to destroy matchmaking. There is still no ranking system. Worse, there's no "making". There's just matching, then you're in a lobby with the same group of people until they decide to quit. Why would I want to play the same people again? If you want us to be able to do that, put a "rematch" option after the game instead of just matching us up together. Its so fucking dumb. Even worse, games now feature "join mid-game", which sounds cool at first. Someone on your team quits, and you should get a replacement. Except that in reality, this sucks. Because you often join games that are half done, where your team is getting creamed because everyone has quit. And games will start with teams being 4v3, 5v3, whatever. I've started multiple games 4v1. The matchmaking is straight fucked up. Its the capstone of shit on this game. Its unreal. No ranking system is idiotic to me... but to remove the crux of Halo online experience for years? The thing people loved? WHY????
Why? That's all I can ask. That's all I can wonder. Why these changes? To get the COD crowd? All they did was alienate old fans, and remove so much depth and fun to the game. I don't think I even touched on all the things that piss me off. Oh wait, I forgot.
The playlists and maps blow. The playlists are garbage: you can choose between slayer, big team slayer, ctf, oddball, koth, regicide, and swat. No "team objective", no "team hardcore", no combination gametype playlists. No genre playlists. Just gametypes. stupid. The maps also suck. They're all huge, and have incredibly obstructed sight lines. Incredibly, absurdly huge, mind you.

Oh yeah, and sprint is now a mandatory ffeature. You can't get rid of it. Everyone has it, permanently. It just slows down gameplay IMO, because people have a slower base running speed, and you can only fight will running at base speed. It's not huge to me, but I don't like it.

Also they removed a ton of gametypes. No assault. No 1 flag. No classic flag. why? why?
I just don't get 343. I hate Halo 4. I do. I tried to love it. this was what I got on the night of release. http://imgur.com/HvyKw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. I was stupidly excited for this game. I thought anything could be better than Reach. I thought they would do right, maybe freshen the game up. I really wouldn't mind ordnance drops if they did them in a more intelligent way (rather than distribute power weapons through them, distribute side-grades). So don't let people tell you I'm just a hater. I've loved Halo since Halo 1. Halo 2 will always be my favorite multiplayer. I've read all the books. I fucking love Halo.

I just hate Halo 4. Fuck.